Hista and Numca: Estimate State Value Effectively for LLM Reinforcement Learning
About
Reinforcement learning (RL) refines large language models (LLMs) by directly optimizing model behavior through reward signals. While accurate state value estimation is critical for stable training in classical RL, it remains an underexplored challenge in LLM post-training. In this work, we introduce the State Value Estimation Benchmark (SVEB) to assess state estimation within existing RL frameworks and show that critics in standard approaches like PPO collapse to a coarse group-average baseline. To address this, we propose two techniques: Numca, which leverages numerical spans as gradable milestones for state value estimation, and Hista, a framework that uses LLM's hidden states as representation to weighted average disjoint rollouts and their return. Extensive experiments demonstrate that both methods yield more accurate state value estimates and enhance training performance across different RL algorithms and model sizes without incurring significant computational overhead.
Related benchmarks
| Task | Dataset | Result | Rank | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mathematical Reasoning | CollegeMATH | Accuracy65.3 | 327 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | MATH 500 | Accuracy78 | 221 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | AIME 24/25 | Accuracy12.1 | 171 | |
| Math Reasoning | GaoKao En 2023 | Accuracy71.1 | 109 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | MATH 500 | Accuracy76 | 79 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | MinervaMath | Accuracy38.5 | 61 | |
| Reasoning | Hybrid Reasoning Dataset | Math Average Score61.2 | 18 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | MinervaMath | Accuracy31.3 | 13 | |
| State Value Estimation | SVEB (test) | Number Score14.2 | 7 | |
| Mathematical Reasoning | Hard Math Dataset | MATH Score85 | 3 |